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JUST/CLAS/RELG 3022 and PHIL 3729: Searching for God: Week 4: Plato's Compromise
Ancient Greeks, Jews, and Christians
Topic for the week
Topic: Plato’s Compromise: The Problems of Thrasymachus and Protagoras
Primary Source: Plato’s Forms and the Challenge of Protagoras and Thrasymachus
Plato’s Forms and the Challenge of Protagoras and Thrasymachus
- Plato, Symposium (Socrates’ speech: 199c – 212c)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by Harold N. Fowler. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.
- Plato, Parmenides (Parmenides 127b – 135d)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by Harold N. Fowler. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.
- Plato, Sophist (Sopnist 248a – 249d)Plato. Platonis Opera, ed. John Burnet. Oxford University Press. 1903.
- Plato, Statesman (Statesman 269c-e)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 12 translated by Harold N. Fowler. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1921.
- Plato, Statesman (Statesman 273b)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 12 translated by Harold N. Fowler. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1921.
- Plato, Phaedo ( the whole dialogue is insightful, but particularly 63e–68b on the soul and death)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 1 translated by Harold North Fowler; Introduction by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1966.
- Plato, Phaedo (Phaedo 71a)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 1 translated by Harold North Fowler; Introduction by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1966
- Plato, Phaedo (Phaedo 76d-77a)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 1 translated by Harold North Fowler; Introduction by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1966.
- Plato, Phaedo (Phaedo 78b-84b)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 1 translated by Harold North Fowler; Introduction by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1966.
- Plato, Phaedo (Phaedo 95a-107a)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 1 translated by Harold North Fowler; Introduction by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1966.
- Republic (esp. the dialogue with Thrasymachus in Book I, 328b)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 5 & 6 translated by Paul Shorey. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1969.
- Plato, Republic (Book 2, 363e)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 5 & 6 translated by Paul Shorey. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1969.
- Plato, Republic (Book 2, 376c-383c)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 5 & 6 translated by Paul Shorey. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1969.
- Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, Republic (Book 7, 514a-518d)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 5 & 6 translated by Paul Shorey. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1969.
- Plato, Cratylus (Cratylus 440a)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 12 translated by Harold N. Fowler. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1921.
- Plato, Meno (Meno, 84c-86c (anamnesis))Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 3 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967.
- Plato, Timaeus (Timaeus 27d-28a)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.
- Plato, Timaeus (Timaeus 34a–b)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.
- Plato, Timaeus (Timaeus, 40a-c)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.
- Plato, Timaeus (Timaeus, 90c-d circular motion)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.
- Plato, Theaetetus (Theaetetus 152a (on Protagoras)Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 12 translated by Harold N. Fowler. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1921.
- Aristotle, Metaphysics (Metaphysics Book 4, 1009a6-15)Aristotle. Aristotle in 23 Volumes, Vols.17, 18, translated by Hugh Tredennick. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1933, 1989.
- Aristotle, Metaphysics (Metaphysics Book 11, 1062b12-10063b35 (on Protagoras))Aristotle. Aristotle in 23 Volumes, Vols.17, 18, translated by Hugh Tredennick. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1933, 1989.
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Secondary Source: Plato’s Forms and the Challenge of Protagoras and Thrasymachus
- Plato's Middle Period Metaphysics and EpistemologySilverman, Allan, "Plato's Middle Period Metaphysics and Epistemology", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall 2014 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.)
Optional Readings: Plato
- Chapter XXIV: The Bounds of KnowledgeBarnes, Jonathan (1999). Chapter XXIV: The Bounds of Knowledge In The Presocratic philosophers. Routledge and Paul. (pgs. 139-157)
- The Origins of the Christian Mystical Tradition: From Plato to Denys. Oxford.Louth, Andrew. (2007). Chapter 1 Plato In The Origins of the Christian Mystical Tradition: From Plato to Denys. Oxford.
- Method and Metaphysics in Plato’s Sophist and StatesmanGill, Mary-Louise, "Method and Metaphysics in Plato’s Sophist and Statesman", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2020 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.)
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